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Giorgia Meschini's avatar

Here's a word for your collection, invented by my late uncle Tonino: DOPODOMAI (which is NOT "dopodomani", i.e. the day after tomorrow, but the day after “mai", never... 😂)

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Oh how I LOVE this word! Thank you, Zio Tonino in cielo!

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

But I would like to know why it's not "dopodimai." Maybe because it's a play on "dopodomani" . . .

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Giorgia Meschini's avatar

Precisely! Apparently he used to reply like that to teachers asking for his homework — “when are you going to fare i compiti, Tonino?” “DopodoMAI, signora maestra!”... 😂

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Mrs Beverly Horrell's avatar

Patience, politeness and PROSECCO!

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Ah, perfetto!

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Jan Peppler's avatar

Mamma mia!! The notary and your citizenship are nightmares. The rusting loveseat, well, yes, typical Italian annoyance. We return in a week. Tom asked what we could get done in 18 days while we’re there. I laughed. We’ll see!

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

In bocca al lupo! I look forward to hearing about your progress. And I'm happy to say the loveseat went bye-bye today!

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peggymoritz@me.com's avatar

I feel your pain! Are you sure you are in Italy and not Spain? I am still trying to figure out the explanations and decisions about services requiring long wait times. Spain can build a tall apartment building in 2 months but can’t streamline online appointments for residency, tax and government issues. It is a nightmare for sure.

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Oh dear, I didn't know Spain was as bad as Italy! It's like playing a constant game of Whack-a-Mole!

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Vian's avatar

We bought a house in Umbria in October 2022. We've been living in it under a "comodato". We still haven't got title because the certificate of conformity (with the house's original building plan) has not been reviewed or approved by the comune. So, more than 1 1/2 years....

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

"Only" a year and a half? :-) I hope the comune gets to it soon!

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Gillian Longworth McGuire's avatar

This happened to us too. We just got the last piece of paper for our little house in Venice. It took just over a year. None of the work has started so we still don’t have our things. I am now entering a second year of living in an unfurnished house sleeping on a mattress on the floor.

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Vian's avatar

Good God.... We purchased all the owner's furnishings, almost all of which were in good shape, so we have not been inconvenienced in that way. Venice, eh? Well, that's something. With the rising sea, winter's can be daunting, no?

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Gillian Longworth McGuire's avatar

Thankfully the house is warm & dry & high by Venice standards. I kind of love Venetian winter.

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Venetian winters are the best! But I'm sorry you're in furnishings limbo; that gets old pretty quickly. May the work start soon!

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Gillian Longworth McGuire's avatar

Thank you! 🙏 (I am very tired)

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Rosie Meleady's avatar

I'm sitting in my house with my. penguin and three dogs - roasting! What is the name of the air con without the big ugly outside fans? I might invest in one next year :)

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

I don’t think there’s a name per se, they’re just climatizzatori senza unità esterna. I’m getting the Olimpia Splendid Unica Edge 30 Solo Freddo On/Off. Pricey, but supposedly more efficient/durable than others. I hope so!

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Rosie Meleady's avatar

Ohh just saw one with 31% off on Amazon. I have about 4 bedrooms to do so too expensive for me but if you haven't ordered here's the name: Olimpia Splendid 02456 Climatizzatore Fisso senza Unità Esterna - Unico Next 10 HP PVAN, con Pompa di Calore, Motore Inverter Potenza 2,1 kW/1,7 kW - Nuova Generazione 2024

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Thanks, but I have to go through a contractor for the permits, and he's providing the unit/s. They only deal with the specific model I'm getting.

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Cathey Nicol's avatar

Miracle of miracles, i applied for my Permesso renewal in March (yes, only a week before it expired but i will have the receipt....which is SUPPOSEDLY enough - airport story on that another day!) and i had my interview appointment at the end of April!!!!!!!!! Couldn't believe it!!!!!!!! Now, of course, i will still have to wait the requisite 7 months to actually receive my new card.....but still! An improvement over last year! (i did receive my first card 2 months before it was to expire........)

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

It's not a requisite 7 months; it's supposed to be 20 days! So frustrating! But I'm glad you got that first appointment out of the way. Fingers crossed you get that SMS soon!

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Ash's avatar

Oh Lordy, wait till you hear about some of my experiences moving to Italy! We had no kitchen for 50 days due to miscommunication, and a lot of “yes next week”s. Our front door hasn’t been able to lock for 3 weeks, it was fixed this morning after we told them how important it is to be able to lock our door at night! And don’t even get me started on the questura. I have three little kids and my husband and I going through exactly what you described. Pulling them out of school and driving down to Brindisi every other week because of appointment changes. One time we all had to get on a plane and fly back to Australia just to get one simple document. Mamma mia! But it’s all worth it right? 😅

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

That sounds like a true nightmare! I hope things are (and/or are getting) better!

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Ash's avatar

It is but also I feel so calm here. Every time another road bump appears we just kind of smile and work through it. It must be the food and wine making me so chilled and happy. 😊

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Kim's avatar

I'm with you in the heat 🥵 at 60 and hot flushes, 🔥 most days are an inferno.... here in Australia as you know it gets pretty hot here in Summer, a tip- which you may already do, if you have a freezer - get hand towels wet them and store them folded in bags in the freezer, hopefully you have fans, ceiling or standing, on cycle mode drape that frozen cold hand towel around your neck, in the cool of the fan - instant cooling. Also buckets of water with peppermint oil in it, for you feet. 😉

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Unfortunately, I've found all those tricks to be pretty unhelpful, except for one—a cold wet towel around my dog's neck or on her belly. But I haven't tried the peppermint oil, so must do that. Thanks!

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Mrs Beverly Horrell's avatar

Remember the 3 Ps!

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Are they patience, patience, and patience?

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JJC in VT's avatar

Cheryl— Where was the glicine photo taken ?

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Hi DDD :-)

in Perugia.

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JJC in VT's avatar

And the azaleas are on the Spanish Steps. The waters are back at the Caracalla Baths, finally, after 1500 years. A dopo, si?

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Yes! I wish they'd leave plants on the Spanish Steps all year. And I can't wait to see the water installation at Caracalla. Hoping to see a concert there this summer. A dopo!

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Mark Hinshaw's avatar

To the spectrum indicated by those four words, I would add a fifth:

Impossibile

Sometimes that is the case, as much as one might hope otherwise.

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Cheryl A. Ossola's avatar

Hi Mark, yes, I suppose "impossibile" is a subset of "mai." There is, though, the negotiating game in which impossibile becomes possibile, but never presto or subito and usually dopo. lol

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